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Censoring Viganò? Michael Matt responds.
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Boanerges Boanerges
Obviously Matt is a skilled communicator but at the end of the day he is choosing friends in high places over the inconvenient truth (while masking it with his care for Strickland). But that's not the way that God works...
spinmeister
Since November of 2019, for almost four years now, Archbishop Vigano has stated very clearly and repeatedly his position that Pope Francis is not the Pope. His position is not a surprise to anyone. Archbishop Vigano offered to do a zoom, but Matt instructed him to send a video and then acted like the video format was a problem. He vetted the transcript of the video and decided that this was not …More
Since November of 2019, for almost four years now, Archbishop Vigano has stated very clearly and repeatedly his position that Pope Francis is not the Pope. His position is not a surprise to anyone. Archbishop Vigano offered to do a zoom, but Matt instructed him to send a video and then acted like the video format was a problem. He vetted the transcript of the video and decided that this was not compatible with Bishop Strickland's stance and cancelled Archbishop Vigano. What about this is different from what was said about Matt from the beginning? Matt wants to claim that "unity" was the format. What "unity" are we talking about? Unity in criticizing the direction the Church has and is currently taking. That is the actual theme. Archbishop Vigano is an OG and a key player in that group, but is Bishop Strickland? Let's all let Michael Matt decide. Right? It's all about what Michael Matt decides.
123jussi
So he did what he is accused of.
spinmeister
I think Michael Matt and Bishop Strickland have both clearly shown who they are. Now believe them.
Lizzy67
I am with Matt! Pray against the evil who is vehemently opposed to unity.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
I'm for unity, as long as it meand unity to fight against Pope Francis and bring him and his people down and out.....of the Vatican and the Catholic Church.
But Vigano is right in saying that Pope Francis is not the Pope. NO POPE WOULD ALLOW FOR GAY BLESSINGS...............OR THE IDEA OF WOMEN PRIESTS WHEN IT WAS CLOSED DOWN BY JPII IN 1994.
Sandy Barrett
Protecting Strickland is more important than Viganò's ego.
Simon North
Protecting Strickland from whom? Himself? Strickland is a Modernist. Not as extreme as Bergoglio and Tucho, but a clear and committed Modernist.
Cassandra Laments
I'm not sure - in fact I've no idea - why they all need protecting in this. I admire Strickland immensely for taking a stand, particularly given that he is a diocesan Bishop, but how much worse could things get for him? Francis can take him out by demanding his resignation any time. How does being 'associated' with Vigano's statement change his position? He's made his position clear and I pray he'll …More
I'm not sure - in fact I've no idea - why they all need protecting in this. I admire Strickland immensely for taking a stand, particularly given that he is a diocesan Bishop, but how much worse could things get for him? Francis can take him out by demanding his resignation any time. How does being 'associated' with Vigano's statement change his position? He's made his position clear and I pray he'll stick with it, but one might just as well say that he shouldn't be seen in the company of any Traditionalist, so let's not invite any.
True Mass
Many modernists are evolving. They didn't know. As a cradle Catholic what did I know. I was born into NO. The scales began falling in recent years and continue to fall every day. Vigano, Strickland and others have only in recent years begun offering Trad Mass. This can only be good.
Sally Dorman
Michael Matt's position is very well argued. You cannot come up just before a conference and submit a video without being invited to that and then cry "censorship" afterwords.
spinmeister
He was instructed by Matt to send the video. He didn't just decide to do it. Matt told him to do it. Then Matt decided it was a "problem" after he vetted it and knew Strickland wouldn't want to appear to agree with it. But, he knew before he ever saw the video that Strickland wasn't going to appear on the same stage with Vigano if Vigano was free wheeling. I'm sure that was how Matt got Strickland …More
He was instructed by Matt to send the video. He didn't just decide to do it. Matt told him to do it. Then Matt decided it was a "problem" after he vetted it and knew Strickland wouldn't want to appear to agree with it. But, he knew before he ever saw the video that Strickland wasn't going to appear on the same stage with Vigano if Vigano was free wheeling. I'm sure that was how Matt got Strickland to agree to participate. Matt thought he might be able to control what Vigano could say with an "interview." And Vigano would have none of it. So Matt cancelled him. That's what happened. Isn't it ironic that the Unity conference so ecstatically inflated by Michael Matt had to censor anyone ie Bishop Vigano who just wouldn't unify.
Boanerges Boanerges
So much for unity: “we want to stand by Schneider, Burke and Mueller...” but we censor Vigano and label him sedevacantist for stating the inconvenient truth! Talking about Bergogio’s heresy is now controversial topic! Wow! Christ must have been so controversial for calling out Pharisees when he could have made sure not to inconvenience Nicodemus or any other member of the Sanhedrin. What a way to …More
So much for unity: “we want to stand by Schneider, Burke and Mueller...” but we censor Vigano and label him sedevacantist for stating the inconvenient truth! Talking about Bergogio’s heresy is now controversial topic! Wow! Christ must have been so controversial for calling out Pharisees when he could have made sure not to inconvenience Nicodemus or any other member of the Sanhedrin. What a way to rally the resistance to the gates of Hell and prepare for the synod from Hell! God help us!
Cassandra Laments
Excellent analogy - wish I'd thought of it!
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DefendTruth
Viganò didn't play fair.
Live Mike
Does this look like Viganò's fault to you?
"This address was prepared in order to be given at the Catholic Identity Conference. However, at the last minute, it was "deleted" from the roster. It is unfortunate that, in the current climate of fear within the Church, the free exchange of ideas and viewpoints is no longer tolerated. Let us pray for the unity of the Church, that unity which can only …More
Does this look like Viganò's fault to you?
"This address was prepared in order to be given at the Catholic Identity Conference. However, at the last minute, it was "deleted" from the roster. It is unfortunate that, in the current climate of fear within the Church, the free exchange of ideas and viewpoints is no longer tolerated. Let us pray for the unity of the Church, that unity which can only be grounded in the Truth, who is Jesus Christ." - Archbishop Viganò
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Maximilian Schmitt
I know people who are in contact with the Archbishop at this moment. There is more behind Vigano's declaration than just the question if Bergoglio is pope or not. It is intimately connected to the question of the sacramental transmission of the apostolic succession and its safeguarding. The Archbishop is aware that he has to do something serious that also concerns him personally. At least it is sure …More
I know people who are in contact with the Archbishop at this moment. There is more behind Vigano's declaration than just the question if Bergoglio is pope or not. It is intimately connected to the question of the sacramental transmission of the apostolic succession and its safeguarding. The Archbishop is aware that he has to do something serious that also concerns him personally. At least it is sure at this moment he is really priest. The rest will follow and he is going to act. That is for sure!
Live Mike
BS... Michael, the fact is that you chose to insult an Archbishop rather than allow your CIC audience to view his presentation says a lot about you. A presentation which would have undermined your own personal position. Yeah, I'm sure that had nothing to do with your decision... Sure, it didn't! Hopefully, people are now aware of the small little man that you have shown yourself to be. "Unite the clansMore
BS... Michael, the fact is that you chose to insult an Archbishop rather than allow your CIC audience to view his presentation says a lot about you. A presentation which would have undermined your own personal position. Yeah, I'm sure that had nothing to do with your decision... Sure, it didn't! Hopefully, people are now aware of the small little man that you have shown yourself to be. "Unite the clans" my eye!
Maximilian Schmitt
Matt failed regarding the question of the holy orders since twenty years!