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Black Is White! Traditionis Custodes Says the Opposite of What It Says - Cardinal Sarah



A shameless Cardinal Robert Sarah attempted to make LeFigaro.fr (November 23) believe that Francis' Traditionis custodes is “absolutely not to suppress the ancient liturgy.”

He says he believes that during the various ad Limina visits of the French and Polish bishops, Francis has "clearly explained his intention."

Sarah fabulates that Francis "is attentive" to the "instinct of faith" present in many young people and families who are intimately attached to the Roman Rite and that he is “aware that what has been sacred for so many generations cannot be scorned and banished overnight.”

With unscrupulous sophistry, Sarah goes as far as to claim that Francis expects “that the current liturgy be enriched by the best of the ancient liturgy” - while the real Francis states in TC his aim to eradicate it.

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Wilma Lopez shares this

A much-needed reminder that cardinal Sarah is not and never was a traditionalist. Like Pope Benedict he's a good man wholeheartedly supportive of VII and the 'reform of the reform'- among other things he favours the readings in the vernacular.

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Dr Bobus

@thomasvalle
A recent Pew Poll in the US showed that 66% of all Catholics who regularly attend mass believe that in Transubstantiation. Of those who do not regularly attend mass, 33% believe it.
The poll indicates that the big problem is not that Trads don't think the Novus Ordo is valid. Rather, it is that 33% of regular NO attendees themselves also don't think it's valid.

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thomasvalle

Only about 1% of Catholics in the world are traditionalists, and of those, many think the pope is not the pope, that Vatican II was a false Council, and that the Novus Ordo is invalid. So that isn’t Catholic either. Instead of putting their trust in the pope and the Magisterium, they trust the Internet and men who think they have more authority and are more Catholic than the pope. They also don’t seem to realize that the first Mass was not in Latin but in Aramaic.
I Love the Traditional Latin Mass, the problem is the culture among groups within traditionalism who have formed a kind of cult-like following of a beautiful liturgy to the detriment of the gospel. Like attending a beautiful opera that sounds, looks and makes one feel good, but after leaving the theater they are back to the same old same old.
Christ commands us to love our enemies; these days the scandal is to witness how Catholics hate their bishops, mock and slander the pope and everyone that is not in their liturgical club.
Here is a video of Pope Benedict explaining the FALSE Vatican Council of the media: youtu.be/CfTWC5lPshM

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Paul_D

Christ also commands us not to scandalize the young. Francis has done that with his various mockeries, irreverence, and other such things!

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De Profundis shares this

Any attempt at Straussian irony falters here

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Seidenspinner

I don't expect a huge flood of people to the TLM, but I do expect a flood out of the NO

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V.R.S.

Suppression is openness.
Annihilation is life.
Banishment is inclusiveness.

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Jan Joseph

Kardinaal Sarah komt erg angstig over, wordt kardinaal Sarah bedreigd?

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petrus100452

Cardinal Sarah is in a phase of denial, it will pass

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rhemes1582

@thomasvalle This statement by you
"Unfortunately the traditionalist movement is quickly becoming just another “ism” that is leading groups into a caricature of Catholicism and leading many into schism. "
What a vicious, dishonest, and unchristian thing to write. Certainly you continue to strike your colors up here, and from my vantage point they are NOT Catholic.
Long Live Christ The King.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.

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thomasvalle

rhemes158
I love the Traditional Latin Mass. The problem are traditionalists who ruin it for everyone; what is truly not Catholic is to mock and slander the pope, to reject Church Councils and tell other Catholics that their Novus Ordo is not valid. These are all things coming from traditionalists. All those Sede Vacante groups are the product of nutty traditionalism; simply look up the Palmarian church.
Again, unfortunately the traditionalist movement is quickly becoming just another “ism” leading groups into a caricature of Catholicism and moving many into schism, especially with the influence of the Internet and fake news besmirching the pope. The cartoons speak for themselves.

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rhemes1582

@thomasvalle

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thomasvalle

Judging by the sectarianism and vile attitude coming from many who identify as traditionalists, it is no surprise that the pope has put the use of the TLM under the supervision of the local bishops, especially since many traditionalism promoters besmirch the ordinary mass, call it invalid, reject Vatican II Council, attack, and mock and slander the pope, and seem to reduce the gospel to attending the Latin Mass and following rules out of fear of going to hell. This is not the way of love. Unfortunately the traditionalist movement is quickly becoming just another “ism” that is leading groups into a caricature of Catholicism and leading many into schism. Instead of pushing the Latin Mass so much, Catholics should work on making their local ordinary mass as reverent as it was intended to be. There are beautiful Novus Ordo masses, with the priest facing the altar, and N.O. priests bringing back communion rails and practicing traditional Catholic devotions, without the poisonous attitude. Catholics have a much greater responsibility in the world than non-Catholics. Here are two talk by Archbishop Sheen that reminds us that the gospel is not merely about following rules and attending beautiful liturgies: Talk 1: americancatholictruthsociety.com/sheen/27Confirmation.mp3
Talk 2: americancatholictruthsociety.com/articles/sheen.htm

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pgmgn

...a vile attitude is often the result of repeated abuse.
Sorry. Is what it is.

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Mikhael Manafort Montrose

Thomasvalle, you have to be a boomer.
The Novus Ordo is the biggest failure in your church’s history.

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giveusthisday

Cardinal Sarah changes his opinion the way some people change their clothes.

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John A Cassani

I can believe that Bergoglio is telling Trad-sympathetic bishops that TC is about anything other than attempting to eliminate the Old Rite. But, if he did, it’s almost certainly an expression of the Peronism that Henry Sire described in The Dictator Pope. His way of maintaining power is to tell everyone who comes before him what they want to hear. Cardinal Sarah just seems to have a high tolerance for being lied to.

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pgmgn

SESPS - Sow's Ear Silk Purse Syndrome.

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A black man's white lie ? Fear of his firing ?

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Dr Bobus

Cardinal Sarah is already retired.

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@Dr Bobus
Dear Dr.Bobus,
I mean..
Cardinal Sarah Appointed to Congregation for Oriental Churches — Catholic Arena
When Cardinal Sarah’s resignation was accepted..
May I ask you a question ? Is this my misunderstanding ?
(The prefect is Cardinal Leonardo Sandri)

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