Only about 1% of Catholics in the world are traditionalists, and of those, many think the pope is not the pope, that Vatican II was a false Council, and that the Novus Ordo is invalid. So that isn’t Catholic either. Instead of putting their trust in the pope and the Magisterium, they trust the Internet and men who think they have more authority and are more Catholic than the pope. They also don’t seem to realize that the first Mass was not in Latin but in Aramaic.

I Love the Traditional Latin Mass, the problem is the culture among groups within traditionalism who have formed a kind of cult-like following of a beautiful liturgy to the detriment of the gospel. Like attending a beautiful opera that sounds, looks and makes one feel good, but after leaving the theater they are back to the same old same old.

Christ commands us to love our enemies; these days the scandal is to witness how Catholics hate their bishops, mock and slander the pope and everyone that is not in their liturgical club.

Here is a video of Pope Benedict explaining the FALSE Vatican Council of the media: youtu.be/CfTWC5lPshM

"they trust the Internet and men who think they have more authority and are more Catholic than the pope." etc. Twaddle. They trust the Traditional Church, Faith and Magisterium and reject all modernist, non-Catholic expressions of the Faith introduced by VII. More Catholic than the Pope? My husband's an atheist/agnostic and he's more Catholic than the Pope - Needed a laugh though, so thanks - you worship pagan idols along with your heroes do you?

rhemes158
I love the Traditional Latin Mass. The problem are traditionalists who ruin it for everyone; what is truly not Catholic is to mock and slander the pope, to reject Church Councils and tell other Catholics that their Novus Ordo is not valid. These are all things coming from traditionalists. All those Sede Vacante groups are the product of nutty traditionalism; simply look up the Palmarian church.

Again, unfortunately the traditionalist movement is quickly becoming just another “ism” leading groups into a caricature of Catholicism and moving many into schism, especially with the influence of the Internet and fake news besmirching the pope. The cartoons speak for themselves.

This is a pagan offering placed on the Altar over St. Peter's bones. You just need to be Catholic to see this offence. You however throw mud and vicious accusations against faithful Catholics attached to the ancient usage in a manner similiar to an ideolog trapped in his errors.
Catholics see the gravity of this pontificate including those that attend the Novus Ordo and the Traditional Latin Mass.
@thomasvalle stop attacking the Catholic Faith, and faithful with your vitriol. Stop trying to divide the faithful.

What is truly not Catholic are the 2 actions captured in these pictures.

@thomasvalle I think it's important to make distinctions in that traditional Catholics are not monolithic. There are as you say, sedevacantists, but in addition, also those that attend a diocesan TLM, those that attend regular canonical TLM order masses, and those that attend SSPX chapels, and some who attend both FSSP and SSPX, so one cannot place all traditionalists in the same camp. Many great saints and lay Catholics have rightly criticized bad popes in the past and Pope Francis certainly is worthy of -respectful- key word here- criticism. I would agree with you that disrespectful criticism is uncharitable and should be avoided. However, to say that a Pope can never be criticized is Ultamonatism and popalatry. It is also unCatholic.

@philosopher No Saint in the Catholic Church ever mocked or attacked a pope like what we see coming from traditionalist attacking Pope Francis, and those who seem to approve of it. They are more like the original Protestants all of whom were Catholics who mocked and attacked the pope. The pope on earth that represents unity in the Church. Thus he is especially targeted by the evil one to cause division. And beware of blinded religious; it was the blinded religious who called Christ Beelzebub. (Matt 10:25)

And especially beware of the media. You just labeled him a “bad pope” because of what you saw on the Internet. The media is a master of twisting and misrepresenting words, actions, and intentions. Today, traditionalist Catholic social media has ubiquitously degenerated into vitriolic slanderous attacks against Pope Francis.

In Canon Law, a Catholic who physically attacks the Vicar of Christ receives the penalty of automatic excommunication; that alone I think puts in perspective the gravity of all the mockery and slanderous attacks against him that people so easily indulge in these days.

"No Saint in the Catholic Church ever mocked or attacked a pope like what we see coming from traditionalist attacking Pope Francis"
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No Saint in the past of the Catholic Church had a pope like Francis (assuming that he is a pope). Moreover, for example St. Vincent Ferrer attacked the pope, he was a public schismatic and became a saint. St. Bernard of Clairvaux openly attacked the anti-pope despite many prelates who considered the latter a true pope. Therefore, using a classic quote: "WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE?"

@rhemes1582 anti-Catholics post images of Catholics kneeling before statues of the Virgin Mary as incontrovertible evidence and proof that Catholics worship statues. That lie is based on ignorance. As for the images you present as proof that Pope Francis is a bad pope, one need only watch the event in context. It’s simply another lie based on ignorance. All over the traditionalist social media the claim that the natives were bowing down and worshipping the “Pachamama idol” is based on an edited video snippet. In reality, they were thanking God our Father, for the goodness of Creation. What most people saw was an edited clip. The event was in the context of the feast of Saint Francis of Assisi where in the ceremony they sang St. Francis’ Canticle of the Sun, where St. Francis gives thanks to God for “Brother Sun” “Sister Moon” and “Mother Earth”. Those are the words of St. Francis of Assisi.

The problem is that people were too lazy to watch the entire event, and put their faith in the Internet, sensational headlines, and all the talking heads who see everything through their smoke colored political glasses. Since they obviously did not understand the Spanish, Portuguese and Italian that was spoken at the ceremony, they based their conclusions on pictures and edited video.

The gossip and the false news narrative drowned out the truth, and people were reacting and taking sides on the false narratives, and not the real intentions.

The simple intention of Pope Francis was to put a real face on the problems in the Amazonian regions, as detailed in his apostolic exhortation Querida Amazonia. Previously, Pope Benedict XVI had condemned the injustices against the Amazonian people and decried the devastation to the the Amazon Basin and the ramifications it has caused to entire populations. In Querida Amazonia, Pope Francis described the terrible injustices which has decimated lands, polluted rivers, displaced populations and created all kinds of social problems, including exploitation, sex trafficking, drug trafficking and massive destruction of the ecology in the name of money.

Here is that ceremony on context if you want to bother to watch It. The wooden statue was part of a display, along with a parrot, canoes and fishing nets and other items representing Amazonian regions. In the end you will see these same people planting trees giving thanks to God Our Father our Creator, and not “installing demons” or worshipping pagan idols as you may have heard on the Internet. Here is the video:

youtu.be/wPK7RpoUzPk

@thomasvalle
You start your entry with a very dishonest deception " anti-Catholics post images of Catholics kneeling before statues of the Virgin Mary as incontrovertible evidence and proof that Catholics worship statues. That lie is based on ignorance." You try to compare biogotry with an actual event.
The image of P.F. receiving dirt offered to a pagan God was during Holy Mass and then placed on St. Peter's Altar at same Mass! Shame on you thomasville.. May all see your trickery.

The ceremony in the garden that your so found of was also performed on 1st Friday , traditionally dedicated to The Sacred Heart of Jesus.
May the great St Francis of Assisi who's feast day it was, pray for the faithful of these days to see through the deceptions of those embracing error.

Speaking of snippets which you mention in your latest post to me..Here's a beauty;
You so slightly say "The wooden statue was part of a display." I say the wooden statue was part of the ceremony" Shame on you again thomasvalle. Stop with the deceptions please.

...a vile attitude is often the result of repeated abuse.

Sorry. Is what it is.

The Low Mass of the Roman Rite is rather austere and simple. It is not a question of beauty but Faith. Lex orandi and lex credendi in the consequence - without poisonous attitudes of the liturgical & nouvelle theologie revolution.
One more thing: Novus Ordo sectarianism is unable to wipe out the Traditional Rite of the Holy Roman Catholic & Apostolic Church and stop the Catholic revival. Si Deus nobiscum quis contra nos?

@Dr Bobus
Dear Dr.Bobus,
I mean..
Cardinal Sarah Appointed to Congregation for Oriental Churches — Catholic Arena
When Cardinal Sarah’s resignation was accepted..

May I ask you a question ? Is this my misunderstanding ?
(The prefect is Cardinal Leonardo Sandri)