Viganò: “We've Been Poisoned by a False Magisterium for Over Six Years Now”
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"No rational person could because a false magisterium is not a catholic magisterium."
No True Scotsman Fallacy, Crackers. Also, the standards you've been using for denying the legitimacy of Francis' Papacy also apply to the last four Popes. And we both know every step of your little dance that follows by now.More
No True Scotsman Fallacy, Crackers. Also, the standards you've been using for denying the legitimacy of Francis' Papacy also apply to the last four Popes. And we both know every step of your little dance that follows by now.


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So according to Vigano the magisterium has been poisoned and false for the last six years.
I agree.
However unlike Vigano I can not recognize the man who has been doing all this poisoning in a false magisterium as a legitimate pope.
No rational person could because a false magisterium is not a catholic magisterium.
Catholic popes do not officially promulgate false poisonous teaching.
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I agree.
However unlike Vigano I can not recognize the man who has been doing all this poisoning in a false magisterium as a legitimate pope.
No rational person could because a false magisterium is not a catholic magisterium.
Catholic popes do not officially promulgate false poisonous teaching.
The conclusions are obvious.
Bergolio does not enjoy the protection of the Holy Spirit because his election in 2013 was uncanonical.
[It was uncanonical because the actual pope Benedict xvi was still holding on to the office despite giving an appearence of a resignation.]
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His perception seems therefore quite skewed.
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"Viganò believes this current time is paving the way for the Antichrist"
Vigano continues to recognise Francis as a valid "pope".
Francis has published the formally antiChristian document Amoris laeitiae which endorses and promotes sacriligious communion for unrepentent adulterers thereby destabilizing the indissoluble nature of the sacrament of matrimony.
So.
Who can respect any …More
"Viganò believes this current time is paving the way for the Antichrist"
Vigano continues to recognise Francis as a valid "pope".
Francis has published the formally antiChristian document Amoris laeitiae which endorses and promotes sacriligious communion for unrepentent adulterers thereby destabilizing the indissoluble nature of the sacrament of matrimony.
So.
Who can respect any priest or bishop who supports an antiChrist type alleged "pope" who promotes such evil?
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Cardinal Burke's interpretation of Amoris Laeitiae carries more weight than yours. Thors Catholic Hammer
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"Who can respect any priest or bishop who supports an antiChrist type alleged "pope" who promotes such evil?"
Those who:
a.) recognize Benedict XVI resigned in accordance with Canon Law
b.) study Church history and realize there have been many bad Popes …More
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"Who can respect any priest or bishop who supports an antiChrist type alleged "pope" who promotes such evil?"
Those who:
a.) recognize Benedict XVI resigned in accordance with Canon Law
b.) study Church history and realize there have been many bad Popes before Francis.
c.) acknowledge the possibility some recent popes before Francis may have also advanced "heretical" teachings, JP II and B XVI, included.
d.) recognize the opinion of a Catholic bishop or priest has more credibility than that of a yammering parrot from Leinster, Ireland who repeats the same lies very nearly every day on every post, regardless of how many times those lies get debunked.
That's who. Since you asked. :D
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The term co-redemptrix does not imply equality.
Not all co-workers are equal.
But for Mary,s fiat there would have been no redemption.
She was 100% free to say no to God
As the new Eve human mother of the new Adam/man Jesus she preceded him in the order of nature.
Is the child greater than its parent?
Mary is certainly worthy of the title co-redemptrix.
It is petty to quibble in my view.More
Not all co-workers are equal.
But for Mary,s fiat there would have been no redemption.
She was 100% free to say no to God
As the new Eve human mother of the new Adam/man Jesus she preceded him in the order of nature.
Is the child greater than its parent?
Mary is certainly worthy of the title co-redemptrix.
It is petty to quibble in my view.
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You cannot get a false magisterium from a true pope, so unless you want to call Jesus a liar, Who said, I have prayed for you, Simon, so that your faith may never fail, then you better start examining ppbxvi.org and stop insisting the Cardinals were infallible in the first 20 minutes after the Consistory of Feb 11 2013. If you do not have proof enough that in choosing Bergoglio in the conclave of …More
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He still sits there.
[The attempt to create a sort of "papal regency" with Bergolio is a catastrophic failure.Pope Benedict should immediately acknowledge this appalling mistake]
Well said: "Viganò observes that Francis humiliates the Church’s highest authority with “dissimulations and lies” and “blatant gestures of ostentatious spontaneity” through which he exalts himself in a continuous narcissistic self-celebration.”"
And, for more than fifty years.More
And, for more than fifty years.
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The problem has nothing to do with the Novus ordo or the TLM. Both rites are valid.
The problem is the false conclave of 2013 called on the basis that confused theologian pope benedict xvi had resigned the office.
He never resigned the office and still sits in the chair of the great and glorious St. Peter.
The man bergoglio who pretends to occupy this chair therefore never properly succeeded to the …More
The problem is the false conclave of 2013 called on the basis that confused theologian pope benedict xvi had resigned the office.
He never resigned the office and still sits in the chair of the great and glorious St. Peter.
The man bergoglio who pretends to occupy this chair therefore never properly succeeded to the office.
He is a true wolf in sheeps clothing seen sadly by world as a "pope" of some kind and one that the world understandably loves to bits and refuse to criticise.
Be warned and avoid him. He has no spiritual authority whatsoever.
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Go see a priest about it.
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If he thinks like that and yet continues to recognize the patently false pontificate of Bergoglio.
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In this religion of the man of Bergoglio, he needs to assassinate the doctrine of the Church in order to completely replace it with the religion of the UN that worships the Pachamama. Bergoglio is like a murderer who planned a fraudulent wedding with the intention of killing a rich woman and keeping her fortune. This man is not a pope not only because he was already a heretic prior to his invalid …More
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A heretic can not be a valid pope.The question is exceptionally easy.
In addition since pope Benedict still sits in the Chair of St Peter and never stepped down properly the conclave of 2013 was entirely unlawful and invalid.
the lazy and corrupt cardinals participating in the charade never even bothered to assess properly what the extremely confused "theologian" Benedict xvi was up to.
"Modernists as "masters of error and experts in the art of deception," noting that with them, "it is impossible to seek clarity, since the distinctive mark of modernist heresy is precisely dissimulation."
"The tactic of affirming what one wants to destroy, using vague and imprecise terms, promoting error without ever clearly formulating it, is also typically modernist," Viganò said, pointing to …More
"The tactic of affirming what one wants to destroy, using vague and imprecise terms, promoting error without ever clearly formulating it, is also typically modernist," Viganò said, pointing to Pope Francis' frequent ambiguity." (Vigano)
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To Agent Rose.
I am a practising catholic and I say and judge that Jorge Bergoglio is a formal heretic and an apostate priest, I also say that he never succeeded to the Chair of St Peter because that chair remains occupied by Pope Benedict xvi who never vacated the office of the papacy.
Therefore every act and statement by this imposter pope francis is devoid of proper legality and he has no rightful …More
I am a practising catholic and I say and judge that Jorge Bergoglio is a formal heretic and an apostate priest, I also say that he never succeeded to the Chair of St Peter because that chair remains occupied by Pope Benedict xvi who never vacated the office of the papacy.
Therefore every act and statement by this imposter pope francis is devoid of proper legality and he has no rightful spiritual authority over anybody.
the cowardly clergy will not challenge this usurper becuase understandably they fear retribution and loss of pensions etc.
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@AgentRose To say that Bergoglio is a pope is to place a heretic over the Magisterium, that is to say that Bergoglio from Argentina was exempt from fulfilling the Law of God and could, according to you, oppose Catholic doctrine while remaining Catholic. Bergoglio is not a pope beginning because in Argentina he no longer professed the Catholic faith before his invalid election. In Argentina Bergoglio …More

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To AgentRose.
Weinandy is deeply deeply confused. There is no internal papal schism because Benedict retains the office of the papacy. He only resigned the ministry. A partial resignation of that kind has no validity. Bergoglio has never been a pope of any description whatsoever. There is no reason to be distraught because a great and necessary sifting of the chaff from the wheat is occurring. …More
Weinandy is deeply deeply confused. There is no internal papal schism because Benedict retains the office of the papacy. He only resigned the ministry. A partial resignation of that kind has no validity. Bergoglio has never been a pope of any description whatsoever. There is no reason to be distraught because a great and necessary sifting of the chaff from the wheat is occurring.
Be patient and trust in the basic mass and the sacraments. The outrageous scandals performed by the false pope and his agents will end soon.
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Vigano is as much part of the problem as the cowards Burke , Brandmuller and Muller.
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To Arthur McGowan. Nobody knows exactly what God does or does not do when it comes to people in material heresy but it is safe to say God seeks to illumine them concerning the truth.
When it comes to formal heretics like Jorge Bergoglio sj there is almost nothing that God can do because such people have cut themselves away from the Mystical Body of Christ. People like Bergoglio hate the truth. …More
When it comes to formal heretics like Jorge Bergoglio sj there is almost nothing that God can do because such people have cut themselves away from the Mystical Body of Christ. People like Bergoglio hate the truth.
The recent physical attack by Bergoglio on the Asian woman was not because she caught his hand but because her face represented the truth.
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In continuing to do so he belittles his own position.
Francis is not a valid pope.
he has no spiritual or worldy authority over any living catholic
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The reason almost complete clerical silence surrounds the bogus papacy of francis is fear of excommunication.
Let me dispel this fear immediately.
Jorge bergoglio has no authority whatever in any sphere.
His bishop and cardinal appointments are all dubious legally and when it comes to any sentence of excommunication such is void because a true pope is the final authority on the sentence.
Francis is …More
Let me dispel this fear immediately.
Jorge bergoglio has no authority whatever in any sphere.
His bishop and cardinal appointments are all dubious legally and when it comes to any sentence of excommunication such is void because a true pope is the final authority on the sentence.
Francis is a true pope
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Apologies for my sharp words but I always get annoyed when oblique references are made using abbreviations only.
Much prayer is needed for our lawful and only true pope Benedict xvi
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Pattfm
Apologies for my sharp words but I always get annoyed when oblique references are made using abbreviations only.
Much prayer is needed for our lawful and only true pope Benedict xvi
7 hours ago
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Where is Viganos integrity?
On the one hand he denounces francis by basically calling him the precursor of the Anti Christ but still recognizes him as a valid pope.
Francis is not a valid pope.
He can therefore by judged by anybody.
Those who accept the validity of the francis papacy all collectively contribute to the ongoing spiritual destruction willed and connived at by this truly evil Argentinian …More
On the one hand he denounces francis by basically calling him the precursor of the Anti Christ but still recognizes him as a valid pope.
Francis is not a valid pope.
He can therefore by judged by anybody.
Those who accept the validity of the francis papacy all collectively contribute to the ongoing spiritual destruction willed and connived at by this truly evil Argentinian prelate
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It is not sufficient to defend catholic doctrine. The wolves in sheeps clothing are attacking the core of the catholic church.The biggest wolf in the pack is the false pope named francis the first. Until the hierarchy and lower clergy address this matter then the situation will only deteriorate further.
All bishops and cardinals will be held to account for their egregious failure in addressing the …More
All bishops and cardinals will be held to account for their egregious failure in addressing the papal crisis ongoing since 2013 and instigated by a confused theologian pope who still occupies the Chair of glorious Saint Peter but like Nero of Old twiddles his thumbs while Rome is burnt by material schismatics and formal heretics.
Arthur McGowan
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It is totally reasonable to accept as pope a man who emerged from a conclave and runs around wearing white, etc. If there is a problem, it takes time for people to wake up. The people who accepted Bergoglio as pope in 2013 were not instantly transformed into formal heretics, schismatics, and apostates. Viganò gives every sign that he is a man who is assessing the mounting evidence as he sees it. …More
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These men are meant to be professionals.
They are anything but professional accepting the rubbish peddled by Pope Benedict in his thoroughly defective resignation speech filled with all sorts of errors.
The consequence has been calamituous leaving a formal apostate heretical priest seemingly in charge of the roman catholic church.
millions have been deceived and the cowardly hierarchy and lower …More
They are anything but professional accepting the rubbish peddled by Pope Benedict in his thoroughly defective resignation speech filled with all sorts of errors.
The consequence has been calamituous leaving a formal apostate heretical priest seemingly in charge of the roman catholic church.
millions have been deceived and the cowardly hierarchy and lower clergy refuse to take action.
It will not go well for them
Thank you Arthur McGowan for you reasonableness. Yes, Vigano is assessing everything and is courageous. We have to imagine that many others in the Church who are faithful to Christ are doing the same thing. Faithful lay people and religious who are awake are not running around with "business as usual" attitudes. We have to believe that there are MANY investigating, thinking, analyzing, studying, …More
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The time fore reasonableness ended some time ago.