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Schneider: Excommunication of Viganó "Will Increase Divisions"

The Vatican should think twice before excommunicating Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Astana, Kazakhstan, told ReligionNews.com (June 24).
"I think the pope would be wise and prudent not to excommunicate Archbishop Viganò".
He added that “with this act, the Holy See will increase divisions even more.”
Mgr Schneider suggested that Vatican officials should invite Viganò privately, rather than in a judicial setting, to smooth over differences.
Viganò's public statements are not helpful, Mgr Schneider added: "I lament that Archbishop Viganò uses disrespectful language."
Schneider considers Viganò “in error, because he is voicing a new theory of the probably invalid theory of Francis’ illegitimate election.” Viganò's positions have “no foundation.”
The bishop has asked Mgr Viganò to avoid using "disrespectful language" about Francis.
"I think that today the church has so much internal division that it would be imprudent, even if there is some canonical …More

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Schneider Agree: "Will cause divisions." Disagree: "Viganò's positions have “no foundation.”

yuca2111

Whoever was on the fence on Francis as Vigano's claims, this surely will push them to the other side.

Schneider is a TRAITOR hireling who is in full communion with the apostate Bergoglio. Any priest who remains united with Bergoglio has joined his rebellion, as did the apostate angels who preferred to be faithful to LUCIFER and disobey God.
Archbishop Viganò: 'Bergoglio is one of the main activists of the hellish LGBTQ + agenda' - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)

yuca2111

If what you say is true the 80% of catholics are traitors for being in communion with Francis in the Novus ordo. Sorry, but no...

Majority followed Baal at the time of Elijah. The remnant is foretold for the End times, too.

Respect the apostate Bergoglio who has betrayed Christ and the Church? Bergoglio should be in jail paying for the crimes of covering up child sexual abuse.

John A Cassani

Schneider has always struck me as trying positioning himself to be the last bit of prey devoured by the lion.

Reminds me of a movie quote: "Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied." I honestly think he and other sympathetic concilliar bishops are going to get chopped before the SSPX does.

Jan Joseph

Wij staan voor 100% achter Mgr. Vigano.
1. Daarom verwerpen wij de verkiezing van paus Franciscus tot Paus. De verkiezing was niet objectief, een kardinaal behoort onbevooroordeeld het Conclaaf in te gaan, dat is niet gebeurd bij de verkiezing van paus Franciscus.
2. Daarom verwerpen wij het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie.
3. Daarom verwerpen wij praktiserende homoseksuele priesters, bisschoppen, kardinalen en paus Franciscus.
4. Daarom verwerpen wij priesters, bischoppen, kardinalen en paus Franciscus die niet meer geloven in God.
5 Daarom verwerpen wij de communievieringen.
6. Daarom verwerpen wij het synodale proces.
7. Daarom verwerpen wij dat de priester naar de gelovigen toestaat.
8. Daarom verwerpen wij dat de communie niet aan de communiebank worden uitgedeeld.
9. Daarom verwerpen wij dat mensen van hetzelfde geslacht kunnen worden gezegend en getrouwd.
10. Daarom verwerpen wij dat gescheiden mensen de Heilige Communie mogen ontvangen.
11. Daarom verwerpen wij dat de Tridentijnse Romeinse Heilige Mis wordt verboden.
12. Daarom verwerpen wij de Novo Ordo vieringen.
13. Daarom verwerpen wij dat leken de sacramenten moet bedienen.
14. Daarom verwerpen wij het verbod op het Rooms Katholieke geloof van voor het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie.
15. Daarom verwerpen wij, wie kan dit aanvullen ?

yuca2111

I understand Vigano is fearful for his life, he doesn’t want to be killed... and that on itself is sad to hear, priests and all of us should embrace martyrdom, but i l know is easy said than done... Come oh Lord Jesus to straight us out. 🙏

I hope Vigano doesn't end up like CArdinal Pell. I would not put it past Francis' VAtican that CArdinal Pell's death was a hit job to silence him....done by one of the VAtican hired queers lurking in the shadows.

If Viganò is the only bishop who freely speaks what we all know to be the Truth, why should he volunteer to be killed and therefore silenced?

yuca2111

Poor Schneider... I understand his poor understanding of what is going on, he still clings to blind obedience. We should obey God rather than men said St Peter, yet the rotten fruits of Francis won’t open Schneider eyes... by his fruits, Bergoglio's fruits, he has shown clearly who he really is, and no false prophet can be a true pope, such simple math even any kid would be wise enough to sum, but not Schneider... It is good Vigano open his eyes, yet we didn't need Vigano to see the fruits, bu tsure is helpful. Poor Schneider, his eminence is blind to see the truth.

Carol H

Archbishop Schneider's understanding of Canon Law is far superior to yours. Only a person/s of equal authority can rule on the Pope. That is the cardinal law of the Church. It is the divine law. And until there has been an official Church ruling, a Pope and his Holy Office cannot be separated. Even if a Pope should be a suspected heretic, we still owe him due respect because of the Office he is attached to. The Church is a hierarchy and we are its subjects. And regardless of how we may feel about this Pope as a person, we are bound in both charity and duty to speak of God's appointed leader with the respect due to this Holy Office. To set yourselves up as a lynch mob is not Catholic; it's socialist.

yuca2111

He is not suspected heretic he is

Ivan Tomas

Oh yes, for Schneider "divisions" is only what concerns him. How about a heresy and apostasy?
Since when are those words disappeared from the vocabulary of the Churchmen your excellency?!

I guess Bishop Vigano is fed up with the manure coming out of Francis and has no more patience with him. Everyone has a limit on how much he can tolerate, and I guess Vigano has reached that point. To me both bishops are very holy and wise. I pray for them both daily.

Bill Schuetter

And having been fed up - and I agree with you, Father - Vigano is forcing the evil people to declare their loyalties, just as Trump's actions are forcing the Deep State out into the open. I'm with Vigano, mistakes and all, but he stands for the real Church of Christ, while Bergoglio stands for the atheistic New World Order and Satan's "church."

Carol H

Bill Schuetter: Pope Francis may, on a personal level, stand for the New World Order, but the Office that he is attached to is not. The Church is not an ordinary institution; it is divine. Which means that the Seat of Peter cannot be soiled or touched by error and remains in place. By divine law - which cannot be broken except by the Church itself - Pope Francis remains attached to that Holy Office. On a human level this means that if we show disrespect or refuse to acknowledge the authority of Pope Francis (when he speaks for the Church), we are showing disrespect and insubordination to St. Peter. There is no doubt that on a personal level, Pope Francis is a terrible Pope. But in light of what he represents, and how he is perceived by the outer world, it is in our own interests to tread carefully and with great prudence. With the monarchies leveled, the visible Church is the last great bastion pushing back against the enemies of Christ. Take away the Pope, the central authority, and you take away the Church.

Naomi Arai

I’m not sure Francis and more than 3/4 of these bishops/cardinals really care and want to divide like the devils. The same thing as happened to Archbishop Lefebvre…